Table 9 Anchor Example – Evaluating under which circumstances to discuss spiritual issues

CPP

You notice it in people - the hectic pace. So - if you can’t even look each other in the eye today. When there’s not even time left to look at someone. Or say hello. Give me a smile. Time’s gone, that’s sad but true. How then WILL one - meet another person on the spiritual level? Well, I-I think that’s impossible. There should really be another sensitising FROM patients themselves as well. So from all people. That you can do that. That one - so yes - (4.1.1_CPP | 00:55:24)

HCP

- I think they also have to bring along an acceptance that maybe the pain afterwards is just as strong as before. So that they come here and say: I want my pain to go away now that the thirtieth clinic is here. And they have had them for maybe 10 years, then I probably won’t take them in. So in the clarification conversation. It’s... you have to be willing to talk about how to deal with the pain. And if you just want to make it go away, it’s just frustrating for everyone. Because faith has something to do with managing pain. If you’re not willing to talk about it, it’ll be a standstill. (chuckles) (2.2_HCP | 01:08:02)

- Only the demand, effectively, so if right there... so only the demands on us. I want that... if I’m... if I’m coming up with... with ideas - what do they expect after they’re released, how should it go. Pain scale from for example... from seven eight, to two. Or is... well, that’s almost unrealistic. Um, these things... just, their willingness to redefine trust in all areas of life. (2.2_HCP | 01:08:58)